Who Is Responsible? An Interview with
Fred Halliday*
with Danny Postel
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Who Is Responsible? An Interview with
Fred Halliday*
with Danny Postel
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Danny Postel: You were involved with New Left Review for 15 years but moved away from their worldview. What is your opinion now of where your former comrades are “at”? I’m thinking particularly of your old friend Tariq Ali, whose international popularity has soared since 9/11.
Fred Halliday: I do not now share the major political orientations of the New Left Review. I resigned in 1983, after one of the journal’s periodic internal disputes. I find the direction they’ve gone most recently, in the last five to ten years, very disturbing, particularly around the issue of rights. But Tariq and I have known each other for more than 40 years. We were students together in the ’60s. We were active in the opposition to the U.S. war in Vietnam. And we’ve continued to cross paths in the British Left context.
About 20 years ago I said to Tariq that God, Allah, called the two of us to His presence and said to us, “One of you is to go the left, and one of you is to go to the right.” The problem is, He didn’t tell us which was which, and maybe He didn’t know Himself. And Tariq laughed. He understood exactly what I was saying, and he didn’t dispute it.
Danny Postel: What exactly were you saying?
Fred Halliday: My view is that the kind of position which the New Left Review and Tariq have adopted in terms of the conflict in the Middle East is an extremely reactionary, right-wing one. It starts with Afghanistan. To my mind, Afghanistan is central to the history of the Left, and to the history of the world, since the 1980s. It is to the early 21st century, to the years we’re now living through, what the Spanish Civil War was to Europe in the mid and late 20th century. It was the kitchen in which the contradictions of the contemporary world, and many of the violent evils of the century, were cooked and then spread out. Just as Italian and German fascism trained in Spain for the broader conquest of Europe and the Mediterranean,the militant jihadi Islamists, of whom bin Laden was a part, received their training, their primal experiences, in Afghanistan. They have been carrying out this broad jihad across the Middle East and elsewhere ever since, including, of course, the attacks of September 11th. You cannot understand this unless you go back to Afghanistan in the 1980s.
But who was responsible? Pakistani intelligence, Saudi Arabia and the United States. Read Bob Woodward’s book on Casey, The Veil, or Steven Cole’s book on Afghanistan, Ghost Wars. The U.S. was deeply implicated. My view is that anybody who could not see that issue then, or in retrospect, is objectively on the Right. And I think Tariq is objectively on the Right. He’s colluded with the most reactionary forces in the region, first in Afghanistan and now in Iraq. He has given his rhetorical support to the Sunni insurgency in Iraq—who have no interest in democracy or in progress for the people of Iraq whatsoever, whether it’s the Baathists, with their record of 30 years of dictatorship, or the foreign Sunnis with their own authoritarian project. The position of the New Left Review is that the future of humanity lies in the back streets of Fallujah. |
I was absolutely opposed to any support for the Mujahideen in Afghanistan, which
I regarded as a reactionary Islamist project. I had plenty of criticisms of the
Afghan Communist regime, but I thought they should remain and reform, and there
should be a negotiated withdrawal of the Soviet forces. Tariq’s position, on the
other hand, was: troops out of Afghanistan, period. In a British context, the
analogy is troops out of Ireland, which I also disagree with. If I had to sum up
what is for me the bedrock, personal, political experience, it is the Irish
question. I grew up in Ireland. I think troops out of Ireland was a completely
irresponsible slogan, just as I think troops out of Afghanistan was an
irresponsible slogan.
Scottish Marxist called Bill Warren, who wrote a book called Imperialism,
Pioneer of Capitalism.
there are two very important theses in Huntington which merit discussion calmly
and in their own right, but not in the context in which he’s presented them.
One, which he takes as axiomatic and is absolutely central to his work, is the
proposition that states necessarily conflict because we live in an anarchical
world. He doesn’t waste much time on this in The Clash of Civilizations and the
Remaking of World Order, but it’s an underlying principle. His starting point
isn’t really the clash of civilizations but the idea that conflict determines
international relations. It’s a core assumption of realpolitik and one of the
pillars on which the book rests. It’s a highly contestable proposition. I do not
see the world as necessarily in conflict in this way.
The index attempts to measure how well countries use their resources to
deliver longer lives, greater physical well-being and satisfaction. It finds
that true happiness can be had on the Pacific island of Vanuatu which comes out
as No 1.
By contrast the Group of Eight (G8) rich nations, whose leaders gather for
their annual summit in St Petersburg this weekend, languish near the bottom of
the list. The host, Russia, comes in at No 172 out of 178, followed by the
United States at 150 and France and 128. The UK comes in at 108 - just above
Laos, but below Libya.
The tip off was when I looked at the performance of the different S&P 500
sectors. I noticed that health care -- i.e. the 56 medical-related stocks in the
index -- had the second-worst return of all, posting a 5% loss in the quarter
just ended. Only technology (which investors these days are treating as just
another big cyclical capital goods industry) did worse, with a 9.6% loss.
Global Culture – Art, Music, Fashion, and Travel

Kendall Anderson has spent the last 3 years opening a lens to abandonment,
decay
and industrial mayhem
in Canada (with the occational visit to the US).
The photographs are stunning and make me think of the great work of Ed Burtynsky. Both photographers
paint a visual reminder of the effects we have on this earth.
Here’s what happened in 2004. The U.S. economy grew 4.2 percent, a very good
number. Yet last August the Census Bureau reported that real median family
income — the purchasing power of the typical family — actually fell. Meanwhile,
poverty increased, as did the number of Americans without health insurance. So
where did the growth go?
The answer comes from the economists Thomas Piketty and Emmanuel Saez, whose
long-term estimates of income equality have become the gold standard for
research on this topic, and who have recently updated their estimates to include
2004. They show that even if you exclude capital gains from a rising stock
market, in 2004 the real income of the richest 1 percent of Americans surged by
almost 12.5 percent. Meanwhile, the average real income of the bottom 99 percent
of the population rose only 1.5 percent. In other words, a relative handful of
people received most of the benefits of growth.
There are a couple of additional revelations in the 2004 data. One is that
growth didn’t just bypass the poor and the lower middle class, it bypassed the
upper middle class too. Even people at the 95th percentile of the income
distribution — that is, people richer than 19 out of 20 Americans — gained only
modestly. The big increases went only to people who were already in the economic
stratosphere.
But census data show that the real earnings of the typical college graduate
actually fell in 2004.
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