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Think before you talk
http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/editori ... 333215.ece
When evidence first emerged (yes, The Hindu has already established, proved guilty, proven beyond doubt in a court of law) of a Hindutva terror network, the authorities took forever to connect the dots. Instead of punishing those in the police who tortured innocent men in Hyderabad (Poor Oawisi) and elsewhere, and quietly but doggedly going after the real perpetrators, the minister has reduced the problem to one of politics.
There is no doubt that some BJP leaders interceded on behalf of those accused of the terrorist bombing in Malegaon. (Again Hindu has something privy and that has been verified by a court of law)
As for the present, the police have said (not the usual claim for secular purposes) the bomb blasts aboard the Pakistan-bound Samjhauta Express, and at mosques in Hyderabad and Malegaon, were carried out by extremists with “links” to the RSS and other Hindutva-oriented factions. (as though proven in a court of law) It is possible, even likely, that those arrested are just the tip of a bigger iceberg (yes stoke some fear more fear).
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Muslims groups threaten to target Jaipur Literature Festival over Sir Salman Rushdie
Controversy emerged before the start of the Jaipur Literature Festival as Muslim groups threatened to target the festival unless it withdrew invitations to writers who supported Sir Salman Rushdie at last year's event. Sir Salman was forced to withdraw from the festival last year after police said they had received intelligence reports of a plot by Islamic fundamentalists to assassinate him.
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Tamil Nadu bans screening of 'Vishwaroopam'
MH Jawahirullah, MLA and president of Tamil Nadu Muslim Munnetra Kazhagam, told reporters that the movie "targets Muslims and their beliefs".
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ente ... 155614.cms
We are all secular now.
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krithivas wrote:Tamil Nadu bans screening of 'Vishwaroopam'
MH Jawahirullah, MLA and president of Tamil Nadu Muslim Munnetra Kazhagam, told reporters that the movie "targets Muslims and their beliefs".
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ente ... 155614.cms
We are all secular now.
A similar controversy erupted in his earlier film "Dasavatharam". In it he was denigrating Hindu deities and showing orthodox Hindu families as "Backward" and "Comical". Despite objection, nothing was removed from the film. The then chief minister Dr. Artiste applauded kamal and a lot of "Secular" Hindus were supporting him.

In this venture he is searching for "Secular" muzzlims to support him. I wish him Good luck to find one.
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Supreme Court notice on plea of Muslim constable who wants to grow beard

Zahroodin Shamsaddin, a constable in the Maharashtra State Reserve Police Force, contended that the believers and followers of Islam had been commanded by Prophet Mohammad to "keep their beards and cut the mustaches short".

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/supreme-cour ... 220-3.html
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Sushupti wrote:Supreme Court notice on plea of Muslim constable who wants to grow beard

Zahroodin Shamsaddin, a constable in the Maharashtra State Reserve Police Force, contended that the believers and followers of Islam had been commanded by Prophet Mohammad to "keep their beards and cut the mustaches short".

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/supreme-cour ... 220-3.html
I remember that this was settled at some level of courts long ago, that islam through the quran places no such requirement. Only some of the hadiths which are not compulsory actually ask this.
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Let there be a new slogan. "Proud to be a Hindu terrorist. My job is to terrorize the terrorists" :D
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Gita on Fighting Terrorism
By Rajiv Malhotra
http://www.infinityfoundation.com/manda ... ameset.htm

In the Bhagavad Gita, God appears in human form as Krishna, to guide Arjuna in the fight/don't fight dilemma that Arjuna faces. What might this 18 chapter holiest of the Hindu scriptures teach us in the dilemma we now face concerning global terrorism? Krishna's advice fits neither of the two extremes that are presently dominating the media debate: At one end are the majority of Americans who promote revenge against the terrorists, as a notion of justice - an eye for an eye. At the other end is a minority of anti-war activists who want no violence, and instead advocate that the US should take the blame for having caused hatred against itself. The Gita's message rejects BOTH these. Its short-term message for this situation pertains to the ethics of war, and its long-term message calls for systemic changes required by both Islam and the West in order to harmonize humanity.

Dharmic War

Krishna scolds Arjuna for his initial attitude of abandonment, saying that there is a global evil that must be dealt with; Arjuna is the best qualified one to fight this evil given his training, capabilities, and position. This is God's work and not his own. By analogy, one could argue that the US must play Arjuna's role, being positioned as the only superpower and having the resources to carry this out. In Hindu dharma, a ruler has the obligation to protect the public from such menaces, and to abandon this role would be irresponsible. God's advice to Arjuna is: "Engage in battle with equanimity and without getting overwhelmed by the extremes of joy and sorrow, gain and loss, and thus you won't incur sin."

A just war ("dharma-yudh" = war-as-duty) should not be for revenge but for the prevention of terrorism in the future. The Hindu idea of justice is in the form of karmic consequence; but these consequences are for God to take care of, whenever and however he chooses. The Gita emphasizes one's rightful action, but always letting God take care of the fruits. Therefore, from President Bush down to the pilots making the strikes, the attitude should be one of doing duty for the sake of ridding society of evil, and not for revenge.

Furthermore, the response has to be relevant and proportional. The Gita does not condone indiscriminate "carpet bombing". Since karma is individual and merit based, there cannot be racial profiling against anyone.

It is also made clear in the Gita that Arjuna has nothing personal to gain from winning. He does not seek power, wealth, fame or glory. Hence, it is not an act to be carried out by the ego and must be free of selfish motives. Applying this to the present dilemma, there are some implications:

The US should not be motivated for the sake of securing its oil supply, as that would be a selfish act.
The US should not focus on ending only the terrorism that is against the US, but rather, it should deal equally with all terrorism that hurts anyone in the world, including remote corners where the US does not perceive a direct selfish interest at this time. Everything is totally interconnected as per Indian cosmogony, and there is no morality in segregating the US's selfish interests from the interests of humanity at large. Unfortunately, Senator Kerry, head of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, amongst other policymakers, has defined the area of US interests to be from Afghanistan to Saudi Arabia, which means that the Indian subcontinent's Islamic terrorism remains a blind spot.
The US cannot aid terrorists one year by classifying them as freedom fighters against a US enemy, and fight them the next year when they turn sour.

Arjuna is required to act in a sattvic mode (i.e. in an attitude of purity) even while carrying out a violent attack against evil. The US must note that collusion with evil cannot be sattvic, and that in the end such collusion cannot expect to result in lasting good, as the deed itself gets tainted by the affiliation. The Gita requires us to repudiate even the actions of our friends, if wrong. Have we as the United States had the courage to repudiate 'friends' who are clearly part of the problem? To have a sattvic activity, we must re-examine two countries we call friends, one that financed terrorists and the other that trained them:

For decades, Saudi Arabia has sponsored Wahhabi Islam, a fundamentalist variety of Islam, and funded 'madrassas' (religious schools) to expand the market share of Islam in poor countries. Madrassas often teach Islamic extremism and triumphalism, and then some of the youth advance into the hands of jihad preachers who are linked to some madrassas if not in charge of them. Yet, given their importance to the US oil supply, the Saudis have not been taken to task.
Pakistan created the Taliban, with US funding and weapons, to fight a jihad against the Soviets. This is not emphasized today by the US media, as it might embarrass prior presidencies and some of the senior cabinet members today who played a role in those governments. We must also ask whether strengthening the dictatorial Army rule in Pakistan, and thus subverting democracy, is in the best interests of Pakistan's citizens. US media has stated that 15% to 20% of Pakistanis are Talibanized, and given its population of 140 million, that is larger than the total population of Afghanistan. Pakistan has openly hosted Bin Laden's operating bases to attack civilian targets in India, killing more Indians than any other nationality from terrorism over the past five years.

Saudi's oil and Pakistan's geography give them unique value to the US short-term tactics at the expense of the long term vision. The Gita does not recommend such collusion with forces that are themselves responsible for the evil to be fought. Any such war would be a stop gap solution at best, and eventually the US would be playing into the hands of the very evil forces it seeks to eradicate. The US must encourage liberal Islamic scholars at the expense of totalitarian Islamic rulers; it must actively discourage Islamic triumphalism that drives many Islamic organizations.

Dharmic War is not Jihad

It is also important to contrast the message of the Gita with that of jihad, since some western scholars have tried to draw similarities:

The Gita's call to Arjuna is not against a country that is a thousand miles away and that has never in its history threatened anyone militarily. Moderate Muslim interpretations state that jihad is an internal fight against evil within, thereby denying the Taliban's legitimacy. There is merit to this claim. However, for 1300 years, a great many individuals, societies and rulers have interpreted jihad as a license to kill infidels and as a mandate to expand. The 7th century invasion of Sindh (India) by Arabs was explicitly celebrated as jihad, and history is filled with one wave of Islamic plunder of India after another. The Taliban's atrocities look benign by comparison. These Islamic jihads, such as by Mohammed of Ghazni, Ghauri, and all the way down to Aurungzeb, were not rationalized by the conquerors as a fight against any threat or based on any dispute. Rather, these were justified as wars to kills infidels and to destroy their idols. Therefore, attempts to rationalize terrorism by blaming US and Israeli policies ignore the history of jihad that precedes the existence of the United States and Israel.
The Mahabharata war, within which the Gita is revealed, was undertaken only after exhausting all avenues for a negotiated settlement, with Krishna himself as the chief envoy. Jihad theology does not require any such attempts, because it can be applied simply on the basis that the other party is non Muslim.
Arjuna complied with the ethics of war: he did not engage in covert activities; he declared the war, warned the people concerned, allowed them to retreat, allowed them to even take rest during nights, and did not hurt innocent people. He did not burn any city or house with innocent people or even enemies. He did not consider the death of innocent people as "collateral damage."
As interpreted for centuries by many invaders, Islamic jihad asks the holy warriors to enjoy the fruits of plunder as their reward, including the sharing of loot, slaves, and women. This scriptural authority was invoked repeatedly by Islamic invaders into India, to enlist criminals as mercenaries with the promise of becoming free and living the good life after a profitable raid of India. Such repeated jihads were selfish ventures sponsored by tribal chiefs but promoted using Islamic theology. No such enjoyment of loot, taking of slaves, or other atrocities is justified in the Gita's call to fight evil. Arjuna was not seeking heaven, with a large number of virgins, as reward.

Questioning Eurocentrism

Beyond the dharma of war itself, there are many other lessons that Hinduism offers to both sides in this clash between Islamic fundamentalism and the west. The US must introspect about its own intellectual chauvinism towards non western cultures, with includes all non western people and not just Arabs and Muslims:

Chauvinism: Western scholars have often subverted other civilizations' legitimacy: Much that the west appropriated from others is deemed to be the consequence of western superiority. This includes land and gold from Native Americans, free labor from Africans, trillions of dollars (in today's value of money) from India under the British, enormous amounts of science and technology from India (often via translations by the Arabs/Persians), know how from the Chinese, etc. The Gita would call for an honest portrayal of every civilization's contributions.
Asymmetric power: Eurocentrism has had a symbiotic relationship with power, as one feeds the other. A Eurocentric representation of different cultures in history, sociology, science and technology, and the story of civilization, is often used to justify the systemic inequalities in globalization, and the hegemony of Christianity through proselytizing. In the true spirit of India's darshanas (systems of representation and debate), there would be equal self representation by all major civilizations in the modern discourse.
Dharmic compassion: There must be a new moral order in globalization, centered around human unity and not politics. Dharmic compassion needs to be given higher priority in policymaking at all levels and must transcend the notion of 'us' and 'others'. For instance, is it moral to ignore Chinese human rights violations against Tibet, just because Tibet does not have oil or other strategic value to the US?
Cooperation amongst religions: Mere religious tolerance must be replaced with respect for all religions, and the world must invest in the preservation of religious diversity. Religious exclusivism is against dharma, as it results in cultural chauvinism and imposing one's ideology under the pretext of 'saving others from their own traditions'. Mono-theism has often become My-theism. There should not be competition for God's brownie points, as it divides faiths into camps fighting for market share.

Islam Versus Islam

The Gita's dharma is built on profound self-examination. Professor Akbar Ahmad, as quoted in Newsweek recently, says that the clash of civilizations is a clash between Islam and Islam - the liberals versus the fundamentalists. Islamic scholars need to introspect about fashioning Islam for democratic, secular and pluralistic times, and should take on social reforms seriously. Islam's history has had some such voices of progress, but these were often dominated by radical elements opposed to Pluralism and Modernity.

We must remember Emperor Akbar who utilized India's tradition of interfaith debate and cross-fertilization, to facilitate dialogs between Hindu and Muslim scholars. This resulted in spiritual innovation and syncretism of new Hindu-Muslim hybrid theologies and sociologies. India became the ground of the most progressive Islam in the world. His grandson, Dara Shikoh, the heir to the Mughal throne, was an eminent scholar of Sanskrit and Hindu texts, having personally translated the Gita and the Upanishads into Persian. His vision was to have a Hindu-Muslim harmonious society of mutual respect. However, he was murdered by his younger brother, Aurungzeb. The oppressive rule by Aurungzeb was the longest rule amongst all Mughal rulers, in which he planted the seeds of communal hatred and the eventual collapse of the Mughal Empire at the hands of a small number of British traders. Aurungzeb's killing of Dara Shikoh was the defining moment in the history of the Indian Subcontinent, with far-reaching effects till today. This Hindu-Muslim history offers many lessons on dharma and the playing out of the karma that was created.

No religion is free from radical elements, and no religion is essentially radical. Islam has had more than its fair share of radicalism through much of its history. There are many moderate and liberal Islamic scholars, but they fear the clerics, and their voices are subdued. The Gita's message would be for Islam's political leaders to empower their liberal scholars, and to examine Islam's positions on the following matters:

Promotion of Pluralism, not Abrahamism: Islamic public relations is emphasizing that Islam worships the 'same God as Christianity', that Islam believes in all the Christian Prophets, and that Islam believes in Jesus as a Prophet. This call to the brotherhood of Abrahamic religions using the "Monotheism card" is at the expense of the non-Abrahamic religions, including Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Jainism, Wicca, Paganism, Native American shamanism, Shintoism, and many others. This bifurcation would merely reconfigure who is 'in' as a legitimate religion, and who is 'out' as 'worshipping false gods'. This is a double standard, as it tries to legitimize Islam by glorifying Abrahamic exclusiveness. The Gita promotes pluralism, explaining that different humans have different gunas (qualities), and therefore describes a variety of religious paths that are all valid. There is hardly a spiritual methodology known in the world today that the Gita does not list as valid.
Reconciling the two faces of Islam: Pan-Islamic global organizations have a westernized face of peace and tolerance, as opposed to a different internal face of Islam back home. The rulers of Islamic societies who deal with the west are projecting an image that is democratic and peace-loving, whereas the Muslim clergy who control the religious teachings and interpretations often tend to be radical exclusivists and expansionists. Hence there is a 'westernized Islam' practiced by a small elite and a different 'native Islam' practiced by the vast majority. This has resulted in a good guy / bad guy role playing, in which Islamic lobbyists are the good guys claiming to save the west from some bad guys of Islam.
Decoupling from terrorism: Islamic leaders are trying to decouple Islam's image from terrorism, decrying the very use of the term 'Islamic terrorism'. But they should also decouple Islam from various geopolitical struggles and missions where Islam gets routinely invoked to mobilize support. No dharmic end can be pursued using non dharmic means. Extremism is basically 'tamas guna' (ignorance). It gets mobilized into a campaign by combining it with 'rajas guna' (passion). Such a dangerous mixture of tamas driving rajas cannot be controlled towards specific purposes only. In the end, it assumes a deadly life of its own, and spins out of the control of its own creators - this is the story of the Taliban.
The us/them mentality: Islam divides the world into two categories: 'dar-ul-Islam' (the world of Muslims) and 'dar-ul-harb' (the world of non Muslims, called kafirs or idolaters). Muslim law demands different standards and norms by which Muslims must deal with insiders and outsiders. Such built-in chauvinism towards others is contrary to the Gita's teachings and is dangerous. Pan-Islamic organizations should focus on Muslims' respect and responsibilities towards others, and not just push for greater rights and privileges for Islam.
Minority rights within Islam: In Medieval Europe, Muslims tolerated Jews better than the Christians did. But in the 20th century, minority religions have been oppressed in Islamic countries. Rights of non Muslims in Islamic countries need to be made comparable to the rights that Muslims demand for themselves in the west. Islamic leaders should create Islamic commissions and forums on Pluralism, where non Muslims could submit complaints and get a fair hearing on instances of Muslim hate speech against infidels, prejudicial laws or practices in Islamic countries towards non Muslims, and crimes committed in the name of Islam. They should consider issuing fatwas to stop hegemonic Islamic triumphalism, since it has led to 'religious cleansing' of religious minorities in virtually every Islamic state since World War 2 (as evidenced by a decline in the percentage of religious minorities).
Unfreezing the Islamic Law: While Christianity is also based on canon and uniqueness of specific historical events, it has been reformed, and Enlightenment secularized the west's public space. Since the Sunni Muslim Law was frozen by order of the caliph in the 10th century, the only mechanism which exists in Islam to update the Law is the fatwa, which may be considered as the case law of Islamic jurisprudence. There are many muftis who can issue fatwas, and the Holy Quran and the Hadith are often mis-interpreted to promote extreme positions. Islamic leaders should immediately set up a panel to amend the sharia (Islamic Law), especially as it pertains to non Muslims, so as to be compatible with this global era. They should invite and encourage critical examination of Islamic history and texts by all, without intimidation of scholars, just as is common for other world religions.
Fairness in education and dialog: (A) Islam's leaders should investigate whether terrorist campaigns were sponsored in Islam's name, that they now want to disown since things have turned sour. They should examine whether they can ethically disown the baby of radicalism that was created many times during Islam's history, as an expedient means. (B) Muslim leaders who condemn terrorism have often qualified it by blaming it on US foreign policy. Yet they have failed to criticize with equal intensity Islam's own policies and long history of aggression towards non Muslims. They should sponsor an honest and complete account of the history of Islamic expansion since the 7th century by conquest, jihads, and plunder. While the Islamic expansion into the west and the crusades are known to most westerners, the long-term violent campaign eastwards into India is kept out of educational material in the name of political correctness. Only by honestly teaching history can the world heal and move on, rather than by one-sided PR campaigns.

Gita's Recipe for Humanity to Advance

Imagine hypothetically that the Gita's teachings were adopted by humanity at large. What would the way forward look like under such a scenario? Specifically, the Gita's spiritual methodologies, to upgrade each individual in this very life, as opposed to promises for the hereafter, may be broadly grouped into four categories:

Jnana Yoga (path of higher knowing): This involves understanding and living various principles, such as: (1) the complete unity and inseparability of all that exists, including all living creatures; (2) one ultimate Reality that may be conceptualized in a variety of approximations none of which could ever be complete; (3) multiple spiritual paths leading to the same ultimate Reality; and (4) the principle of rebirth and its challenge to selfishness and unethical living.
Raja Yoga (psycho-physiological disciplines): Besides popular yoga, these include esoteric meditation, kundalini, tantra, and transpersonal and humanistic psychologies that are becoming mainstream in America. Approximately twenty million Americans are engaged in practicing some form of these disciplines. Documented benefits merely after one generation of practice in the west include: better health, stress reduction, less violence, improved ethical conduct, and improved intellectual, emotional and athletic performance. A growing number of Americans are also advancing into the higher levels of Yoga at which one experiences exalted spiritual states and embodied transformation.
Karma Yoga (ethics and compassion): The Gita places high expectations of ethical conduct in every aspect of living, including: towards family and friends; towards society at large, without regard to a person's religion or ethnicity; and towards nature and ecology, since the environment is sacred.
Bhakti Yoga (devotion): This encompasses a variety of techniques for worship, prayer, and rituals. These include both personal practices in complete privacy and public group activities in a place of worship.

Recognizing that human diversity is a basic principle of creation, the Gita's spiritual repertoire accommodates as many paths as there are human temperaments: any religions' theological principles can be accommodated within this open system. The Gita therefore has several messages to the leaders of world religions today:

Religions should stop competing. Homogenizing humanity into "my" religion must stop. They should cooperate, learn from each other, and share their respective experiences as pieces of a puzzle to be solved collectively. Humanity must preserve religious diversity just as enthusiastically as we now try to preserve plant and animal species from becoming extinct.
Spiritual truths are ever unfolding, and cannot be frozen into canon. Nor do they privilege one ethnic group or culture over the rest.
Dharmic living is not achieved by joining a club of believers of any sort, or by subscribing to any theory of history of past events, but by practicing the art of living in the present in accordance with the dharma. The journey is an individual one and not a team sport to beat others. The Gita is against a triumphal attitude towards others. Its yoga is not a 'let's go kick some ass' mentality.
The power of clergy and hierarchy of any sort should be lowered, as these become too institutionalized, self serving, and obstacles to advancement.

'Dharma' is not a prophetic religion, but a spiritual framework and set of tools for personal righteousness and spiritual quest. The Gita calls upon all humanity to truthfully and courageously go beyond boundaries in the present crisis. Any ulterior or narrowly defined initiatives would be against dharma. Hindus must set the example by not seeing anyone as 'other' based on ethnicity or religion. Karma and gunas (qualities) are entirely based on individual merit and not dependent upon ethnicity or religion.
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Let's rewrite it for modern India.
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A blatantly communal article laying out the facts and no compulsory == about how Modi caused them to become bombers:

Has Nitish’s Bihar become a breeding ground for terrorists?
Of late, there is a growing clamour that Bihar, in the last few years, has become a safe haven for terrorists. This perception is not wide off the mark.

Sample this: January 2013: Danish Ansari, suspected to be a close aide of Yasin Bhatkal, one of the founders of Indian Mujahideen (IM), is arrested at Darbhanga by the sleuths of National Investigation Agency (NIA).

October 2012: Fashi Mehmood, an engineer from Darbhanga, is arrested from Indira Gandhi International Airport in New Delhi after his extradition from Saudi Arabia, for his links with IM.

May 2012: Mohd Kafil Akhtar is arrested by Bangalore police from this district for his alleged involvement in Chinnaswamy Stadium blast case.

February 2012: The anti-terrorist squad (ATS) team from Maharashtra raid Shivdhara in Darbhanga and arrest a cycle mechanic Mohd Kafil who is said to be involved in the Mumbai blast case.

Three things were common in all these arrests. All the accused were nabbed from Darbhanga, had a extremely poor family background and their kin were mostly illiterate.
In the latest incident of arrest, Danish was the sole bread-earner in a family of eight, and used to give tuitions to students up to Class V. “Except for once, when he went to Delhi last year for 15 days, Danish has never ventured out of Darbhanga,” Mohammad Jakir Ansari, father of Danish, said. The 60-year-old distraught father, who is a small time footwear seller, insisted that his son was innocent and there was some misunderstanding and miscommunication which has led to his son’s arrest.

But the sleuths of NIA, who swooped down to the sleepy hamlet Chakjohra in Bihar’s Darbhanga district and waited for 48 hours before apprehending Danish, said that he was the right hand man of IM mastermind Yasin Bhatkal and was allegedly involved in blasts in Delhi, Pune and Bangalore. “We have concrete information that when Bhatkal came to Darbhanga, he remained in touch with Danish,” an official of the NIA was quoted to have told the villagers before arrest.
The terror module, who practised as a physician, was known as Dr Imran. Intelligence sources said Yasin had many aliases. He was called Yasin Ahmad Siddibappa as well as Shahrukh, besides two other names -- Imran and Asif.
Bhatkal was an expert in configuring improvised explosive devices (IED). He is said to have ‘brainwashed’ students and lured them into terror activities. Almost all his recruits, who operated as Pak-trained modules, are believed to be involved in Delhi’s Jama Masjid shootout, Bangalore’s Chinnaswamy stadium blasts and Pune German bakery case. “And most of them are from Bihar, with whom he came in contact while they (the misguided youths) were pursuing their studies at different engineering colleges,” the Intelligence official added.

“Bhatkal befriended them and convinced them to join terror activities. In 2011, the mastermind of Mumbai train blasts (Bhatkal) married the daughter of Md Irshad Khan, who stayed in Chennai, but is originally from Samastipur. Irshad was arrested by Delhi police in November 2011 for giving shelter to Bhatkal,” the source added.
In May 2012, the Karnataka police raided Barh Samaila village in Darbhanga and apprehended Kafil Akhtar, who was said to be one of the suspects in the Chinnaswamy Stadium blast case. But the arrest was mired in controversy as the cops from down South did not inform the Bihar police before apprehending Kafil. “Whether the arrested suspect is guilty or innocent has to be decided by the court, but this is a brazen violation of the rule of the law where the cops of a different State swooped down here and arrested a suspect without informing the Bihar police,” Nitish wrote to his Karnataka counterpart, registering his displeasure.
But then, this is not the first time that blast suspects have been nabbed from North Bihar districts. Five years back, the Anti-terrorist squad (ATS) flew down to Patna in a special IAF aircraft IL-76{ARC??} and arrested two militants - Kamal Ahmad Ansari and Khalid Sheikh - from a remote village in Madhubani district of Bihar in July 2006. The two Pakistani modules were wanted for their involvement in 7/11 Mumbai train serial blasts.

While Ansari was nabbed from Basopatti, Khalid was arrested from Malmal village in Madhubani. The terrorists, while confessing their role in serial blasts, had admitted before the police that they crossed Wagah border in 2004 on a genuine passport and received an in-depth training at PoK.

In 2009, another Madhubani-born terrorist Mohd Omar Madani was arrested by Delhi police. Lashkar-e-Taiba Nepal chief Madani was assigned the task of recruiting young men from Bihar for insurgency, after proper training in handling arms and explosives.
A year later, an Afghan militant Mirza Khan was arrested from Purnia railway station in 2010. The Taliban told his interrogators that he used Bihar districts like Purnia and Araria as a safe passage to Pakistan via Bangladesh. A chargesheet was filed against Mirza after his links with Al-Qaida was established.

Little wonder, the central agencies feel that Bihar, which shares porous border with Nepal and Bangladesh, has become a breeding ground for wannabe terrorists.
Of course, these are all minor things compared to the biggest looming challenge of saffron terror.

Anwyays, Bihar now joins the elite list of Hyderabad, Aligarh, Azamgarh, Mallapuram, Bhiwandi, Mumbai( areas like Mira Rd etc) in being suspected of being "breeding grounds for terror". Wonder what the common factor in all these places is? :evil:
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ramana wrote:Let's rewrite it for modern India.
Change has to be in india . We need New India which is Bharat .
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ramana wrote:Now we know why the RAW mission to bring Faiza Outalha from Morocco, was aborted by highest authority. It was because she would have put the saffron terror canard to rest.

Some 10 months later, Sebastian Rotella, a US journalist, wrote in his investigative report titled ‘U.S. agencies were forewarned about suspect in 2008 Mumbai bombings’, that Faiza Outalha, the third wife of David Coleman Headley had confessed [in 2008, which was made public in 2010] that Headley was involved in the Samjhauta blast. Rotella added that Faiza felt that “she had been innocently used” in the Samjhauta terror. [The Washington Post 5.11.2010] A while later, in a follow up investigation, Sebastian Rotella disclosed in April 2008 that Faiza returned to the embassy in Islamabad with the tip about the 2008 Mumbai blast when she again linked him to the Samjhauta blast.

Who was the NSA at that time per the story?
Guess if the mission was aborted in 2012 then its NSA Menon who has to answer the charges.
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Yindoo Terror onlee!

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/im ... 338681.ece
Imam masterminded bus burning: police

A group of 15 persons, including an Imam of a mosque, were allegedly responsible for the RTC bus burning incident at Kalapather near the Mir Alam filter bed on the night of January 21 (Monday), the police claimed.

The group wanted to create a sensation in the Old City taking advantage of the current volatile situation, he said.

The DCP maintained that the incident had no communal angle.{Yeah right! They were celebrating diwali a few months late!}
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Prasad wrote:Yindoo Terror onlee!

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/im ... 338681.ece
Imam masterminded bus burning: police

A group of 15 persons, including an Imam of a mosque, were allegedly responsible for the RTC bus burning incident at Kalapather near the Mir Alam filter bed on the night of January 21 (Monday), the police claimed.

The group wanted to create a sensation in the Old City taking advantage of the current volatile situation, he said.

The DCP maintained that the incident had no communal angle.{Yeah right! They were celebrating diwali a few months late!}
As the Khiji warlord did to Bengali Budhists who came out and accepted his rule said after beheading the men, raping the women and cutting their breasts out said. "Those who don't fight for thier freedom, don't deserve it"
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^^ Just swap the names for some "saffron" sounding names and this news would have been headlines for 3-4 days with even HM calling for ban on certain saffron terror orgs( no matter if the outfit was unrelated to the other org)
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And the caliphatre slowly takes shape in TN also:

What the ban on Kamal’s Vishwaroopam really means

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After the long lull following the 1998 Coimbatore blasts, this consolidation and hardline stand by Muslim organisations is a recent trend in Tamil Nadu and is certainly a reason for anxiety. It appeared to have erupted from nowhere in September 2012 in Chennai when the US consulate on the city’s busy arterial Anna Salai was attacked by a group of 2000 people. The protest was organised by TMMK against an anti-Islam film by an American that had outraged Muslims all over the world.

Reportedly, the bulletproof glass cabin of the visa section, CCTV and sunshades of the US consulate building were damaged while some protestors had even managed to scale its walls. The mob also pelted stones. The brazen attack had forced the consulate to close down its office for a few days.

The city was shocked to see a high security and strategic installation being attacked in broad daylight by a mob and wondered how such a large group of protestors had managed to evade the police and gather in front of the building. The failure of the police, especially the intelligence wing, to check the movement of people towards the building, let alone the subsequent attacks, is still a mystery. The story ended with the police arresting some TMMK workers.

In a month, the TMMK and its allies were outraged again. This time they trained their guns on leading actor Vijay’s blockbuster Thuppakki. The leaders and protestors said that some scenes of the movie, which was running to full houses by then, hurt the sentiments of Muslims.

The production team of Thuppakki immediately swung into negotiations with the protestors and acceded to their demands. The producer of the movie, the director and actor Vijay’s father met with 10 representatives of TMMK and 20-odd organisations and agreed to delete some scenes. There were also some unconfirmed reports that some dialogues were even added to make them happy. Vijay’s father even went a step ahead and promised that the actor would depict a Muslim character in a future film.

The latest target is Vishwaroopam and the resistance seems to be really tough.

These three incidences, in the space of a year, indicates that the TMMK and its allies are bolder and more assertive. Is it purely a sequence of reactions to a sequence of objectionable events, that seemed to have naturally occurred in a short span of time; or does it indicate a trend of political and religious assertion?

Although it has been in existence since 1995, till recently, the TMMK had been a non-political oragnisation with allegations of hardline posturing against them. Some of its members and leaders had been arrested following the 1998 Coimbatore blasts while another organisation, Al Umma was banned. There were also allegations that it was controlled by the former members of SIMI, which was banned by the NDA government in 2002. The TMMK had in fact asked the UPA government in 2005 to lift the ban.

Since 2009, the TMMK has a political front, the Manithaneya Makkal Katchi, and it was an ally of the ruling AIADMK in the 2011 assembly elections. The party had contested in three seats and won two. Coincidentally, the new form of public assertion of dissent and intolerance also began in 2012.
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India will not be able to quell the growing Islamic movement within the country.
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RoyG wrote:India will not be able to quell the growing Islamic movement within the country.
Not unless we have some one like Modi at the helm of affairs, without him it would be difficult to control them.
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RoyG wrote:India will not be able to quell the growing Islamic movement within the country.
Preventing Hindu nationalism is due to planned social engineering using media and education for the last 50 years

Unable to enforce law and order in India is due to dysfunctional government.

Secularism is a social engineering project to create false perception and identity
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First, INC needs to go, secondly we need a gov which looks after minorities but doesn't bend backwards to accommodate them. Third, it should go after these islamist groups and EJ groups and makes sure they are 'taken care off'. Fifth, it should go after traitors and INC ministers who are corrupt and are who have undermined national security and they too should be 'taken care off' in such a way that, none of them can come back to power ever again. They should be exposed in the public, let the public know the true colours of Aiyers, Shindes, MMS etc. We need such a gov to last long, India needs good cleansing. Such a gov should also ask US to take a hike.
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venug wrote: Such a gov should also ask US to take a hike.
The question is why is US inside India.
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Exactly Acharya garu, US has no role meddling in our internal affairs, we shouldn't play ball and no such thing should be entertained, NGO funding or any backdoor entries should be closed to them. It doesn't look good if INC comes back or if the next gov goes INC way. Hard decisions are ahead. We also need bit of nationalism be taught in schools, lacking which sell out is possible in the future. This is second independence fight, this time from home grown traitors.
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X-posting:

Running upto the 2014 elections, I wouldnt rule out any of the following from the CDTD - Congress Dirty Tricks Department:

a) Joint ISI-Congress organized terror attacks. It could be low grade. It can be used to artificially implicate Hindus, thereby lending credence to Shinde's remark. These joint ISI-Congress projects could take the form of actively working together on planning/execution (or) one party providing men/material and the other just looks away (or) deliberately overlooking IB terror warnings etc.

b) Some "landmark evidence" against Col. Purohit, Sadhvi Pragya etc will suddenly surface

c) Communal attacks to polarize the votes further. This could either be the usual, easily excitable Islamists initiating the violence, which is the norm. It could also be Congress sleeper cells within BJP, MNS etc "turning active" and instigating or retaliating

Shinde has revealed the cards. Congress believes that the demographics and Hindu disunity are in its favor to such a great extent that they believe "more polarization, the better". They will go to any extent, including sleeping with the enemy, to retain power. All the masks are falling away now & we can see the beast for what it really is.

On a different note, why is Census 2010-2011 results not yet released? It was due to be released in 2012
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sum wrote:And the caliphatre slowly takes shape in TN also:

What the ban on Kamal’s Vishwaroopam really means
While I have no love lost for Kamal, he can cite legal precedence and take this to Court. The precedence is the SC judgement on on another Tamil movie "Ore Oru Gramathile", refered to in this article. Secondly, he can demand damages from the TN Govt and TMMK.

These are Subramaniam Swamy style approaches. Use the law of the land to a large extent. We have not become Pakistan - yet
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Aditya_V wrote:
Prem Kumar wrote:Which is exactly why the glee displayed by many right-wingers for the Owaisi arrests was short-sighted. The arrests are a dangerous precedent and will be abused for 1:100 equal-equals
There has been no glee on display and his remarks cannot be compared with Right wingers as he has called for sedition
Didnt see your response earlier. There was indeed quite some glee displayed in social media. My point is not the difference between the content/language of Owaisi and Right Wingers. My point was that if we bay for his arrest, you can be damn sure that the same precedence will be used to harass right wing at the whim of the ruling dispensation. Which is exactly what happened in just a couple of weeks.

Curbs on free speech is a double edged sword. And in the hands of an anti-national, anti-Hindu party like the Congress, it can be deadly. They have thrived on such curbs from the days of Nehru
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Anyone notice on the comment boards of rediff/times etc there are two types of secular trolls:

1) Expound that Islam is the greatest religion and how women are discovering Islam. They also wish death upon those who insult poobah and islam.
2) Trolls that repeat what Owaisi said in slight variations of their own: Remove army/police and then come for a showdown and see who is "tiger". Or go like: During Gujarat we were just 9% now we are 15%, fight and see for yourself.

This is an obvious indication of some deep changes in the society and mindset of an Indian secular Islamic. They are itching for a war, they know that they will win it.

When I was in Kerala, there were a few Islamic conferences in the coast. One of the themes was "restoring historical status of Islam", in other words: "Establishing a Caliphate that will rule like the Mughals by hook or crook".

Our political worthies know about it for sure, but they are keeping quiet. They are afraid of losing power in the next election at the cost of losing power forever in the future. But future wise strategy has never been our forte.

From an armchair perspective, what is needed first is a platform for ideological unification of India which has its seat of control India. Hinduism in its curent form is too weak and stratified to provide such a platform, and as a result we lose followers to the desert religions which are instruments of propagating imperialism. This ideological unification should cut across any lines of divisions that can be exploited by any politician. It has to be strong enough to hold the people together and make them work for a higher purpose. Only then can a true India emerge. Sad part is, I dont see such an ideological platform that everyone can agree on. Examples of Ideological platforms: USA - Capitalism, USSR - Communism, China - Han supremacy/Claiming historical place, Israel -- Jewism/Never Again, France -- Liberty, Equality, Fraternity, England -- Long live the queen and church of England, Japan -- Cultural supremacy and upholding of the emperor.

Question to armchair Social scientists: Indan -- (?????)
Is it secularism? Is it constitution? Is it Dharma ?

Nehruvian Secularism(pseudo secularism) has failed, coz it divided India and failed in uniting it. So did the constitution. Dharma is a big no no among ideologically failed but politically successful seculars.

Young Indians dont have a rallying cry, and nothing ideological to defend and hence the chaltha hai attitude.

Please note that not all the followers of desert religions are sold out zombies. I have come across a lot of Christians(especially in Kerala) who are as patriotic and des loving as I am. They are only spiritually Christian and usually see through the imperialistic agenda of the west. They hate EJs more than me :). These are our allies, they have to be kept in friendly terms coz their numbers are dwindling due to polarization and divisiveness in Nehruvian politics that has been followed in India.
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One of our primary problems as can be seen is that we recruit our personnel whether in armed forces or in other services simply through tests and educational criteria. What has shown us till now that maximum number of peaceniks that circulate on Kandle industry belong to ex-armed forces or ex-civilian services. While on the other side you exclusively have double-speaking and double-meaning individuals who also belong to same cadres but are ideologically motivated to justify what they do.

Absence of any ideology on our side is forcing a situation where recruits are taken in to services only on their ability to take tests and pass those tests apart from some smart-alecky interview. They can well write tests and pass them but they have no common ideology and no vision of India's manifest destiny. This forces these soft individuals to wilt very quickly when they come face-to-face with an existing and expanding ideology and they soon pick up and uphold the 'peace card'. We need to thoroughly rework this system.
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sum wrote:And the caliphatre slowly takes shape in TN also:
What the ban on Kamal’s Vishwaroopam really means
After the long lull following the 1998 Coimbatore blasts, this consolidation and hardline stand by Muslim organisations is a recent trend in Tamil Nadu and is certainly a reason for anxiety. It appeared to have erupted from nowhere in September 2012 in Chennai when the US consulate on the city’s busy arterial Anna Salai was attacked by a group of 2000 people. The protest was organised by TMMK against an anti-Islam film by an American that had outraged Muslims all over the world.
A few things to notice here.

The anti-US agitation which turned very violent ran for a week and the TN government's response was weak. The arterial Anna Salai was taken over by these thugs from Spencers up to the Anna Flyover for several days. At one point, passing vehicles were damaged by these elements.

There has not been a 'long lull' as the report says. There has only been a deceptive calm while underneath that facade, Islamist extremism has been growing. Last year, there was a serious attempt on the life of LK Advani when he came to Madurai. 83 Al Ummah activists who planted bombs when Advani visited Coimbatore in 1993 were released in 2007. Another 9, including a young (17 years at that time) suicide bomber were released by Muthuvel Karunanidhi in c. 2009 prematurely. Extremism has been growing since then. Protests for the release of certain people still held in jail for the Coimbatore blasts have been going on at various places. Various other protests have also been conducted by the TMMK.

Al Ummah, MMK and Manitha Neethi Pasarai (offshoot of SIMI) are Pakistan inspired tanzeems and are very active in TN. Many leaders in TMMK are ex-SIMI as well. Recently, Hamim Ansari from Tanjore was arrested while trying to travel to SriLanka with sensitive defence information. Investigations revealed that he had been hired by the ISI through its operative in its Colombo High Commission.

Chennai has become a huge centre for circulation of FICN sent by the ISI through Bangladesh and Kolkatta. Just last week, Abdul Munaf, Ismail & Wasim Raja were caught following a hot car chase within city limits but their leader Rafeeq escaped. Rs. 5 Lakhs high quality FICN were seized. In the last few years, there have been several such seizures.

As for the present controversy, Kamal hasan seems to have addressed the protesting Muslims as 'brothers' (what did he say to the protesting Hindus for 'Hey Ram' ?) and has said that he was working for 'Hindu-Muslim harmony'. Why did he have to bring in Hindus in this ?
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Nandi Statue Atop Chamundi Hills Vandalised - The Hindu
The monolithic statue of Nandi atop Chamundi Hills, a major tourist attraction here, was found vandalised on Thursday. The damage is minor in nature.

The statue, reckoned to be at least 350 years old, was sculpted during the period of Dodda Devaraja Wadiyar — who ruled from 1659 to 1673 — and is the only one of its kind in the State.

R. Gopal, Director of Archaeology and Museums, told The Hindu that the main structure was intact and there was no significant or even visible damage to it.

“Our staff and engineers visited the site and there is nothing to be alarmed about. The damage can easily be repaired since there is no disfigurement of any kind to the main statue,” he said.

The precincts around the statue has a few retail shops whose doors were smashed open while a few idols placed around the statue too were found to have been vandalised. The cloth adorning the statue was partially burnt.
Who smashed idols ?
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^^Was a mentally deranged man, SS-ji.

Luckily he didnt touch any other community structures on the way else we would have had headlines of "Minorities under attack in Saffron state" like how even a stone pelted on a church was a random passer-by used to make headlines few years back:

Bid to vandalise Nandi idol in Mysore; mentally ill man arrested
A youth has been arrested for trying to vandalise the monolithic idol of Nandi (sacred bull) at Chamundi Hills on Wednesday night.

The accused, Nagaraja Nayak, 22, of Basavapura, Gajanur Road in Chamarajanagar taluk, told the police he watched a late-night movie show in a city theatre and then climbed the hills around 11 pm. He then went to the idol through the stairs. He tried to climb the idol but slipped.

He tried again by clutching the rudrakshamala around the idol’s neck but it snapped. He smeared on his body sacred ash kept beneath the monolith and performed puja. He also set on fire make-shift shops on carts nearby.

When the vandalism came to light on Thursday, it incensed devotees, who initially thought it to be the act of miscreants. However, it didn’t take much time for the KR police to find Nayak, who was wandering near the Mahishasura statue, holding a torn piece of saffron cloth, which had been draped around the idol.
Like this comment:

No spontaneous riots, no stoning or killing the person, listening and cooperating with police, no stone throwing at police or burning their jeeps, no immediate attacks on other communities etc - this forgiving nature and cool nature is the greatness of Hinduism and Hindus what our religion and Gods expect from us.

Am glad and proud to be a Hindu and fortunate to live in Hindu majority India.
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X-post:
sum wrote:
11:00 MEA bars two Pak diplomats from Jaipur Litfest:

The government has prevented two Pakistani diplomats from attending the ongoing Jaipur literary festival. Media reports quoted Union Home Ministry sources, as saying that it was not in favour of allowing the two Pakistani diplomats -- Manzoor Memon and Naeem Anwar -- to visit Jaipur on Thursday as the Ministry of External Affairs had not given them the requisite approval.

Manzoor Memon heads the media wing of Pakistani High Commission, while Naeem Anwar is Minister (Trade).
Must have been ISI folks trying to meet up with some of their "friends" in the "liberal/Aman-ki-Asha" community which counter-intel/IB must have detected
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Activists seek wider probe into 'Hindutva terror'

http://in.news.yahoo.com/activists-seek ... 09904.html
Twenty-one activists and intellectuals Thursday demanded "a thorough enquiry" into a "terror nexus" involving Hindu groups and security agencies.

A statement issued by them said "a genuine probe" was needed to know the nexus "straddling Abhinav Bharat, RSS, VHP, BJP and Bajrang Dal leaders together with sections of the Indian intelligence and security agencies".

This was necessary although the Indian government had belatedly acknowledged "the heinous terrorist acts of the Sangh groups", they said.

"It must also be investigated whether the network of Hindutva terrorists have been provided not just political but also financial and logistical support by various governments," the statement said.

"There must be a thorough investigation into the foreign sources of funding of the Hindutva organisations."

The signatories to the statement included Manisha Sethi, Ahmed Sohaib, Shabnam Hashmi, Mahtab Alam, Mansi Sharma, Subhash Gatade, Rajeev Yadav, Mohd Shoaib, Shahnawaz Alam, Amit Sen Gupta, Abu Zafar, Harsh Kapoor, Seema Mustafa, Ram Puniyani, John Dayal, Kamal Mitra Chenoy and Wilfred Dcosta.

The statement said that while one may or may not agree with Home Minister Sushilkumar Shinde's terminology on "Hindu terror", "we feel that for long prejudice has ruled investigations" into terrorist activities.

This, it said, had obscured "the role of (Hindu) organisations and their multiple affiliates in planning and executing of attacks and bombings in the country.

The statement said that civil rights groups had argued for long that the investigations into bomb blasts and terror attacks have degenerated into communal witch-hunts.

"Bomb blasts are followed predictably by mass arrests of Muslim youth, raids in Muslim-dominated localities, detentions, arrests and torture; media trials, charge-sheets and prosecution based on custodial confessions and little real evidence.

"Leads which pointed to the hands of groups affiliated to Sangh organisations and their complicity in planning and executing acts of terror were ignored, never seriously pursued.

"The agencies, showing their abject bias, instead chose to pursue the beaten track of investigating Islamic terrorist organisations despite clear evidence pointing in the opposite direction.

"This was true of the Nanded blasts in 2006 as well as of the Mecca Masjid and Ajmer Sharif bombings."

It said the only exception was Maharashtra Anti-Terrorism Squad chief Hemant Karkare, who in 2008 brought into the public domain "the nefarious designs of Abhinav Bharat and its foot soldiers of hate".

Karkare told Hyderabad Police the claim by army officer Prasad Purohit that he had got RDX from an army inventory when he was posted in Jammu and Kashmir in 2006.

The Hyderabad Police, however, ignored his messages, having detained close to 70 Muslim youths, it said.

The statement said it should be probed if Indian intelligence and security agencies "deliberately subverted probes (into terror attacks) as well as the due process of law.

"We hope that the acknowledgement of Hindutva terror will not remain a statement only but that the investigations will be seriously and sincerely pursued."
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http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/s ... 0125.htm#3

A brilliant speech by Kalam Sir.

Kalam's tips on fighting terror in a new world
In today's world, Information Technology plays a crucial role in overcoming this challenge. Some of the core IT areas we consider crucial for counterterrorism, namely:

Collaboration, analysis and decision support tools;
Foreign language tools;
Pattern analysis tools;
Predictive (or anticipatory) modeling tools.


A radical change in attitude: - Covert actions and Penetration

a. Though intelligence agencies of India are playing a commendable role, a radical realigning is the need of the hour.
b. Intelligence agencies must practise a proactive approach and not a reactive approach.
c. Technology driven covert operations are becoming the order of the day and inflicting collateral damages through Critical Information Infrastructure is threatening to change the conventional wisdom in warfare.
d. Elimination of source of terrorism and other anti national activities origin and crippling their ability to use technology for communication.
To be read in full. A brilliant summary of what is needed to be done.
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Well the seeds of Hindu terror have been sown, all Muslims are innocent, ISI is innocent. Its only a matter of time when the yellow stuff hits the fan.

Probe all blasts since 1992: Asaduddin Owaisi
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^^^
In Hyd, there are bike and car processions being taken out by muslim groups, waving green flags with urdu writings on them, shouting slogans loudly. It seems like a show of strength. And this is not even old-city area. So, this is definitely a show of strength. The city is also filled with their flags and all. Today is supposed to be some islamic festival, so it is being used as an excuse for these.

It seems they are trying to provoke a reaction.
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johneeG sir,

From my last visit to Kerala, Bangalore (I did go to both places). I found the more radical of the secular Islamic brothers itching for a confrontation. The signs were ominous. It is as if they have something up their sleeves and they are desperate to use it against the communal yindoos.

I heard the following near my house in Kerala : "Sabarimalayil irikunnathu oru kallu ..... blah blah" i.e. "The diety in Sabarimalla is a stone" followed by idol worshippers are kaffirs and evil. This was at an islamic conference that was held next door to a very reasonable and accommodating RSS/commie yindoo neighborhood.

Process of Dhimmification and secular radicalization has started in earnest.
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Acharya wrote:
venug wrote: Such a gov should also ask US to take a hike.
The question is why is US inside India.
"Breaking India" by Rajiv Malhotra gives a good answer about what the US and other White Christians are doing inside India.
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The signatories to the statement included Manisha Sethi, Ahmed Sohaib, Shabnam Hashmi, Mahtab Alam, Mansi Sharma, Subhash Gatade, Rajeev Yadav, Mohd Shoaib, Shahnawaz Alam, Amit Sen Gupta, Abu Zafar, Harsh Kapoor, Seema Mustafa, Ram Puniyani, John Dayal, Kamal Mitra Chenoy and Wilfred Dcosta.
These are all monotheists - Muslims, Christians or communists. Strange to see followers of most rabid and intolerant ideologies on the face of the earth accusing tolerant polytheists of fundamentalism and terrorism. It is a cuckoo-land scenario.
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