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i was pointing at contamination, and it is not going to be anything like agni pariksha or something these dark forces switching side will have to take. an open invitation is a concern of passing the adharmic ways into a dharmic side, which is trying to hard nowadins to stay dharmic. anti corruption is my main concern.

btw, vibeeshana has a reason to go back, and their kind anyway by birth.
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Theo_Fidel wrote:Well, Congrats to NM.
Hope he can work to put together a majority coalition.
My hope is for him to put together a straight forward policy document on what he intends to do.
Thanks for the congrats! :)

Even if this policy document isn't put together just the departure of maino mafia from center will be a big relief for Hindusthanam.

It's not fair to have so much of modi - modi all over the thread, little bit of attention is deserved by dynasty too:
Are we heading towards a Christian India ?
by Francois Gautier
| India news on April 11, 2011 at 12:40 pm |

I am a westerner and a born Christian. I was mainly brought up in catholic schools, my uncle, Father Guy Gautier, a gem of a man, was the parish head of the beautiful Saint Jean de Montmartre church in Paris ; my father, Jacques Gautier, a famous artist in France, and a truly good person if there ever was one, was a fervent catholic all his life, went to church nearly every day and lived by his Christian values. There are certain concepts in Christianity I am proud of : charity for others, the equality of system in many western countries, Christ’s message of love and compassion….

Yet, I am a little uneasy when I see how much Christianity is taking over India under the reign of Sonia Gandhi :

according to a 2001 census, there are about 2.34 million Christians in India ; not even 2,5% of the nation, a negligible amount.

Yet there are today five Christian Chief ministers in Nagaland, Mizoram, Meghalaya, Kerala and Andhra Pradesh.

One should add that the majority of politicians in Sonia Gandhi’s closed circle are either Christians or Muslims. She seems to have no confidence in Hindus.

Ambika Soni, a Christian, is General Secretary of the Congress and a very powerful person, with close access to Sonia Gandhi. Oscar Fernandes is Union Programme Implementation Minister. Margaret Alwa is the eminence grise of Maharasthra.

Karnataka is virtually controlled by AK Anthony, whose secretaries are all from the Southern Christian association. Valson Thampu, a Hindu hater, is Chairman NCERT curriculum Review Committee, John Dayal, another known Hindu baiter, has been named by Sonia Gandhi in the National Integration Council ; and Kancha Ilaya, who hates Hindus, is being allowed by the Indian Government to lobby with the UN and US Congress so that caste discrimination in India is taken-up by these bodies. ( One can also add to list Ajit jogi, and Digvijay Singh both christian converts & also Pranoy Roy, his niece Arundhati ‘suzanna’ roy )

I have nothing personnally against Sonia Gandhi, in fact she probably is a good person to win the alliegance of so many and certainly a loving mother . I share with her a love for India, like her I have lived in this country for over 30 years and like her I have married an Indian. But nevertheless, since she is at the top, Christian conversions in India seem to have gone in overdrive.

More than 4,000 foreign Christian missionaries are involved in conversion activities across different states. In Tripura, there were no Christians at independence, there are 120.000 today, a 90% increase since 1991. The figures are even more striking in Arunachal Pradesh, where there were only 1710 Christians in 1961, but 1,2 million today, as well as 780 churches! In Andhra Pradesh, churches are coming-up every day in far flung villages and there was even an attempt to set-up one near Tirupati. Many of the North-East separatist movements, such as the Mizo or the Bodos, are not only Christian dominated, but also sometimes function with the covert backing of the missionaries.

In Kerala, particularly in the poor coastal districts, you find “miracle boxes” put in local churches: the gullible villager writes out a paper mentionning his wish: a fising boat, a loan for a pukka house, fees for the son’s schooling… And lo, a few weeks later, the miracle happens ! And of course the whole family converts, making others in the village follow suit. During the Tsunami, entire dalit villages in Tamil Nadu were converted to Christianity with the lure of money.

It is true that there have been a few backlashes against missionnaries and nuns, particularly the gruesome muder of Staines and his two sons. But Belgium historian Konenraad Elst laments that « When over a thousand Hindus are killed and a quarter million Hindus ethnically cleansed in Kashmir, the world media doesn’t even notice, but watch the worldwide hue and cry when a few local riots take place and a few missionaries are killed by unidentified tribal miscreants. Christian Naga terrorists have been killing non-Christians for decades on end, and this has never been an issue with the world media, except to bewail the “oppression” of the Nagas by “Hindu India” .

More than 20,000 people have lost their lives to insurgency in Assam and Manipur in the past two decades. As recently as last week, four paramilitary Assam Rifles soldiers were killed in an ambush yesterday by the outlawed United National Liberation Front (UNLF).

The other day I was at the Madras Medical center, the foremost heart hospital in Madras. Right when you enter the lobby, you find a chapel, inviting everybody to pray, there are pictures and quotations of Christ everywhere and a priest visits all the patients, without being invited at all. Educational institutes and orphanages run by Christian organisations have become big business in Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh and other states.

In Pondichery, where I am often, schools run by Adventists force their pupils, mostly Hindus, to say Christian prayers every day and attend mass. They are constantly fed anti Hindu slogans and biases under different forms, whether it is in history books, or discourses by priests during religious classes. Even in the elite schools or colleges, such as Saint Stephen in Delhi, Saint Xavier in Calcutta or Loyola college in Madras, where no direct proletization is attempted, Hindu pupils are subtly encouraged towards skepticism of their own religion, and admiration of whatever is Western.

One should also say that it’s a one way traffic : remember the furore when MM Joshi wanted the Saraswati hymn to be sung at a Chief Ministers’ meet on education ? And imagine the uproar in secular India if portions of the Bhagavad Gita, this Bible for all humanity, were read at the beginning of the day in public schools ?

Sonia Gandhi said during the last National Integration Council meeting : “We are committed to ideological battle against communal forces which seek to destroy our diversity and polarise us. Certain parties promote polarisation and confrontation. And there are certain regimes in India which promote communalism.

But is not actually the Congress under Mrs Gandhi, which is promoting communalism, by insidiously installing Christians and Muslims (and Marxists) everywhere, propping up Christian states, allowing a free hand too missionnaries and pressing for reservations for Christian Dalits and Muslims, as recently done in AP, in a nation of 850 million Hindus ?

In my country, France, a Christian majority nation , it would be unthinkable to have Hindus – or even Indian born French for that matter – in so many positions of power. Impossible also to find a non-elected, non French, non-Christian person being the absolute ruler of the country behind the scene as Sonia Gandhi is in India.

Indians like to say that the greatness of India is that it accepts a foreigner and a Christian like Sonia Gandhi.

But is’nt it rather a weakness, and an aberration ?

Can’t we find a worthy leader amongst one billion Indians ? This is an India where you see today Swami Avimukteshwarananda Saraswati of Dwarka Peeth, made to disembark from an Indian Airlines flight for carrying his holy dand, a thin bamboo stick which is a symbol of their spiritual designation, inside the aircraft cabin.

Are we heading then towards a Christian India under Sonia Gandhi’s helm? It would be a tremendous loss not only to India, but also to the world. For in India, you find the only living spirituality left on this planet.
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RamaY wrote:uote="Sagar G"]It seems that a disciplinary action would be needed to check Advani now. What a shame the way this man has fallen down, a whole generation of Indians revered him but now he is hell bent in burning down his own legacy well we have already seen another one do the same and Advani seems to be in a hurry so that the other guy doesn't feel lonely out there.His sense of entitlement is beyond belief.His lust for power at 86, means he will burn down whatever is in national interest unless he is brought to heel.Remnant of Dhritarashtra. Like LKG, that blind man too stayed as king (he never coronated Duryodhana as the king). So all of Duryodhana's mistakes are Dhritarashtra's sins. .
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This is Bharat Rakshak world service
here is a special
Indraprasth.
Congi high commnd: to misile battery commander post1
Diggy1 fire a missile at the BJP out post and see if the missile strikes target, target NaaMo if in sight use vanazara liquid fuel missile only.
Diggi 1: Yes sir , Is SHQ aware of this, approved?
CongH: It is never to question the SHQ in this party
Diggy1. Yes Sir, shouts coordinates @#$# acquired through Indira Radar on Rajiv Broad Band 1
Woosh noise and a plume of smoke from DD stock shot
Diggy1 to MSM1 tracking. Are you ready with the script given to you about the missile launch…?
MSM1 anchor Roger and ready
Diggy1 I don’t want Roger, is he a new guy?, I prefer Reddy, sounds secular instead of Roger
MSM1 Puzzled, ok sir! It won’t be roger it will be ready.
Meanwhile at the NaaMo HQ and OPS field HQ
Early warning Radars and systems go blaring
Incoming Doggy 1 Doggy 1
Launch set to intercept ? says Rakshak via RSS feed …
Missile on track and evasive measure with kill option launched
LKg shreaks no don’t hurt Diggy he is my chai biscoot partner
Some how RSS feed misses LKg in terminal condition looking intensely
Meanwhile the defensive missile collides with diggy1 in mid air close to cyber space with a big plume
Ever Reddy on the TV channel RNDTV goes according to our special correspondent embedded with LKg reports that there is utter chaos in the Namo camp as missile like missive strikes in the heart of the campaign. In the near cyber space Kalak Tehelka reports unkown sources were willingly becoming known source to say something big happened, but it still remains to answer , Kahan, aur who Kaun tha?
At the control center of NaMo HQ everything is orderly and preparing for the next infantry guard of Honor organized by farmers a la minute men.
At the Congi HQ SHQ is furious with Diggy1 and asks Money Shaker Higher to take over command and asks him to unleash MIRV at Namo. This deadly MIRV is supposed to work in Print Media, Cyber media, Audio Video media.
Diggy1 is crest fallen, and Money Shaker Higher gives him a smirk while R Baba is watching droopy eyed at the proceedings…..

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Pranav wrote:IMO manipulation of EVMs is the major hurdle between now and Prime Minister Narendra Modi.
But now with Voter Verifiable Paper Audit Trail System (VVPAT) started, and result of congress loss in nagaland, aren't we going to have this 'paper trail system' by LokSabha elections?
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UPA HOPED BJP ITSELF WILL NIP MODI
Sunday, 15 September 2013 | Swapan Dasgupta | in Usual Suspects

In the realms of belief or even superstition, Friday the 13th is regarded as either hugely unlucky by some or just another day by others.

That the BJP leadership chose this day to push through the formal anointment of Narendra Modi as the NDA's Prime Ministerial candidate suggests that their court astrologers didn't attach negative consequences to a major decision taken on that day.

The same can hardly be said for those who were determined to prevent Modi's elevation to a position that has hitherto been occupied by only Atal Bihari Vajpayee and LK Advani. They seemed hell-bent on preventing any categorical announcement till after the Assembly election. The calculation was two-fold. First, it would be argued that there were other Chief Ministers who equally deserved the post of shadow Prime Minister. The tussle between the Chief Ministers in turn would give the requisite space for Advani to emerge as a compromise choice by virtue of his standing as the "tallest leader" of the party.

Second, and I am not making this suggestion casually, there was a plot to use the intervening months, to implicate Modi in a judicial tangle, with some discreet help from those whose business it is to blend politics with skulduggery.


By persisting with the Parliamentary Board meeting on Friday evening, the BJP, in effect, pre-empted the possibility of an unending bout of machinations that would have left the wider world believing that the main Opposition party was in the throes of a civil war and unfit for a role in Government. The likelihood of some dissenting voices to Modi's anointment always existed from those who feared their own marginalisation from the centre-stage of politics.

That the BJP leadership heard them out and then proceeded to do what had to be done hasn't compromised the larger project to win power in 2014. If anything, it has certainly reinforced the party's democratic credentials. That the patriarch chose to wallow in petulant isolation didn't enhance his image as a 'selfless politician' (as his former aide claimed on TV); it made him an object of pity, if not outright ridicule, a man who was out of tune with the contemporary world. To put it bluntly, Advani demanded a veto and threw a tantrum when this was politely rejected.

To those who are familiar with the inner life of the BJP and its wider parivar, Advani's dogged resistance to an onrush of sentiment was doomed to failure. However, there are reasons to believe that many people, not least the Congress, felt otherwise. At a time when the regime has been starved of good news, the curious projection of RBI Governor Raghuram Rajan as India's newest sex symbol and the prospect of a civil war in the BJP were developments the clever Congress looked forward to.

Indeed, the Congress strategy for the past two months, since Modi was appointed head of the BJP campaign committee, was to underplay its significance by painting the Gujarat CM as a small-time local leader. It was no accident that over the past few weeks the Congress has fielded a disproportionate number of its Gujarat State leaders on TV shows where the discussions centred on Modi. The plan was always clear: Paint Modi as a small-town upstart, at best a regional chieftain, and puncture his standing in that way. The Congress strategy was designed to pin Modi down on the so-called human development parameters of Gujarat. The ruling party strategists reposed enormous faith in the ability of Advani to check the Modi advance.

In public pronouncements, the Congress has feigned complete disinterest in the internal affairs of the BJP. Its more supercilious Ministers (most of them, unfortunately, alumni of my old college, St Stephen's) have barely been able to conceal their social contempt of a leader who didn't share a privileged upbringing.

However, behind this apparent unconcern has lurked a great fear which in turn bred tactical confusion. The Congress believes that Modi is generating a euphoric response and they believed that the most appropriate way to stop the challenger was to either rule him out of the race or create sufficient controversy within the BJP to muddy the waters. In short, the Congress banked on extraneous issues such as the well-crafted Vanzara letter and the Advani revolt to be its containment strategy.

Now that this strategy has failed and Modi is indeed trying to convert Election 2014 into a quasi-presidential race, the Congress has to rethink its strategy. The Trojan Horse approach has to yield to a more frontal confrontation. For the Congress, the coming days pose an intellectual challenge.

Should it try to convert the whole battle into an anti-Modi jihad? Wouldn't that, however, involve playing by the rules set by the other side? Should it pretend Modi doesn't exist and merely highlight Sonia Gandhi's Lady Bountiful acts? That is a possibility but somehow a Bharat Nirman-centric approach may end up being a crashing bore.

Should it emphasise its lofty "idea of India" and leave the demolition of Modi to intellectuals such as a TV anchor who suggested to her Facebook friends that with Modi as PM, Indians would be encouraged to drink their own urine for dessert? Facetiousness apart, the Congress is still coming to terms with a viable strategy to counter Modi. Rahul Gandhi's dilettantism isn't helping matters. Actually, the heir-apparent could even pose a problem for the BJP: How do you defeat an opponent who refuses to join the fight?
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Sanku wrote: Was having a Glenlivet 16 year old with Montecristo no 2, onlee saar.
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I see I am being missed though.
Sanku ji your fellow LKA bhakt is also in Delhi, invite kijiye to saath saath mein gham ghalat karenge, montecristo se jigar jalaayenge or glenliver se liver jagaayenge !
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A rival to soosai theory
The Jaitley factor, not Namo, behind BJP dissent

Senior leaders in the BJP say privately that it was not opposition to Narendra Modi but disquiet at the Prime Ministerial nominee's perceived reliance on the Leader of the Opposition (Rajya Sabha) Arun Jaitley "that caused Sushma Swaraj and M.M. Joshi to cast their lot initially with L.K. Advani, who has his own personal reasons for opposing Modi". These leaders claim that in the hundred-odd days since Modi was anointed the Campaign Committee chief, his absence from Delhi led to the Jaitley group taking advantage of the Modi connection to grab power from the other Delhi-based leaders of the party, including general secretary Ananth Kumar, Leader of the Opposition (Lok Sabha) Sushma Swaraj, former BJP presidents Nitin Gadkari and Venkaiah Naidu, as well as senior leader M.M. Joshi. They, together with other leaders such as Yashwant Sinha and Shatrughan Sinha, share with Sushma Swaraj an antipathy to Jaitley and claim that this opinion is held by BJP president Rajnath Singh as well.

Only Advani is seen as opposed to Modi per se, rather than because of the Jaitley factor. The BJP patriarch apparently believes that Modi should have "stepped aside for him as he himself did for a more secular face, Atalji", according to a BJP leader sympathetic to Advani.

"Arun Jaitley is an expert at manipulating the media and planting reports against leaders he dislikes," alleged a senior BJP leader, who was once a part of the Vajpayee Cabinet. Another added that "Jaitley is too cosy with the Congress, especially its top leadership" and that during his time as Law Minister, "help was given to the Congress, which went against the party's interest". This charge was refuted by a source close to Jaitley, who said that on the contrary, "Arunji has been the foremost critic of the Congress and its leadership" and that claims that he helped the Congress are "lies told by jealous people".

Within the top echelons of the BJP, there is a widespread perception that "Arun Jaitley is Narendra Modi's single window in Delhi", in the words of a senior office-bearer, who added that "Jaitley has ensured that those opposed to him get denied meetings with Modiji". Two senior office-bearers vented their view that Modi's acolyte Amit Shah "only listens to Jaitley and takes instructions from him". According to a Jaitley-friendly office-bearer, this is because "Narendra Modi respects Arun Jaitley's opinion and knows that his (Jaitley's) advice is best for the party in UP". He pointed to the "several states where Arunji's superior management made the BJP win despite strong opposition from Congress".

According to a senior leader in the party, even key RSS functionaries such as Dharmendra Pradhan and Suresh Soni are "under Jaitley's influence". They point to the fact that "Subramanian Swamy's induction into the BJP was delayed for six months even though the RSS and L.K. Advani as well as Nitin Gadkari joined hands with Narendra Modi and Sushma Swaraj in supporting Swamy" and that "only when Jaitley stopped opposing Swamy, was the Janata Party chief inducted". A leader opposed to Jaitley claims that the Leader of the Opposition (RS) is supporting Modi "in the hope that after the elections he will not get the support needed to form the government". At that point, Jaitley will "step forward as the secular choice", a la Vajpayee, "as the man closest to Narendra Modi". Those close to Jaitley say that the BJP leader has no such ambition but would be "happy to serve under Narendra Modi" in any future government.

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losers can't sustain on single malt scotch.. desh ka amrut is the end of day drink onlee for them.
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Modi wants recent rebels, old allies back in BJP, NDA

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How is Modi's comparison with Hemu fighting war with present Moghuls of Lootyn's Qila ?
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Tavleen singh again.... on why the raging tv debates about Modi's alleged communalism or criminality cut no ice with common people...

http://m.indianexpress.com/news/the-cam ... s/1169316/
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NaMo modifies crony politics. Can he cure BJP of crony socialism?

How do you uproot rootless wonders? This question has haunted the RSS since 2004. On Friday, the high priests of the Sangh Parivar anointed an individual as the solution for an institutional crisis and crowned Narendra Modi as the ‘Karta’ of its political entity. In one swoop, virtually the entire pantheon of revisionists was rendered irrelevant.

http://newindianexpress.com/opinion/NaM ... 784715.ece
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what! sanku ayiar switching sides now after modi anointment?
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Long-term prosperity vs short-term populism

excellent write-up by gurcharan das
Tragically, 90% of Indians work in the informal economy and even Ganesh idols are sourced from China. Our prime minister knew about this structural weakness when UPA came to power, and his government should have focused on making India a great manufacturing nation — by reforming rigid labour laws, investing in power, roads and ports, cutting red tape, and removing “inspector raj”— so that India does not rank 134th in the ease of doing business.

Instead, this government turned against industry. It brought retrospective changes in taxes, stopped hundreds of projects through red and green tape, imposed arbitrary penalties on companies and placed silly conditions when inviting foreign investment. Given this very unwelcoming and unpredictable climate, honest business people lost all faith in the system. Only crony capitalists remained faithful. And now, in the midst of one of the worst crises faced by our country, this government has championed two disastrous pieces of legislation.
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fails me even how he was successful as an eff-yam? what is causing him to be so gullible? is it alzheimers?
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Jingoes, you can hear Sh Narendra Modi's speech at Ex-Servicemen rally, Rewari today, @ 11:30 am India time by dialling 022-45014501
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Please leave Sanku ji. He has said several times that he is not at all opposed to Modi. In his view it is "all is well" in BJP and Modi's time hasn't come and Advani can have one more shot at it.

That article by BJP insider SwapanDa is really really true. That is why I don't trust any chanikyan theories. The Dilli-billi is a true phenomenon.
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SaiK wrote:fails me even how he was successful as an eff-yam? what is causing him to be so gullible? is it alzheimers?

No, saar. It's Hypermetropia

Beady Eyes firmly fixed longingly on the fast receding nobel onlee.

major economic and social drag factor from rajmata and the accursed NAC which he just cannot disregard if he wants headroom to pursue his anti India pro paki foreign policy at the behest of his "drawing down " masters.

his perceived success as eff-yam was purely because of PVN.
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Meanwhile, our 'neuter-al' media is pushing for rule by politburo rather than fix accountability (and vest authority) in the institution of the PM.

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as dumb tweets go, the dumbest one seen in recent days is that ashutosh one.

does he also have one father or many ones?
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^+1 Indeed :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Then again, about congis, one must wonder.
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Muppalla wrote:Please leave Sanku ji. He has said several times that he is not at all opposed to Modi. In his view it is "all is well" in BJP and Modi's time hasn't come and Advani can have one more shot at it.

That article by BJP insider SwapanDa is really really true. That is why I don't trust any chanikyan theories. The Dilli-billi is a true phenomenon.
Thank you Muppalla ji; indeed all is well inside BJP, before and now. There is absolutely no issue. Let us look at this headline by Swapan Da

UPA HOPED BJP ITSELF WILL NIP MODI

UPA hoped that BJP will unravel, a lot of Modi supporters (not BJP supporters) feared that BJP will not let Modi rise. What happened ?? Puffttttt. All D4 xyz theories are damp squib. It is a year to elections and Modi is PM nominee. ONE year!!

While a lot of invective throwing is going as transference mechanism, I neither take it seriously, and frankly all that does is sadly loosen my respect for those who think harangues pass for analysis. People swing from bad mouthing Arun Jaitely as the "that monster associated with BCCI" to "D4" to "what does he know he only makes pretty speechs in Rajya Sabha" -- to "Arun Jaitely proximity to NaMo scared others" :rotfl: depening on how the alignment with NaMo is seen.

In a democratic party with many suitable candidates, there will always be churn. It is NOT a person oriented party, NaMo won the "psuedo-primaries" but that hardly means that we treat the matter as cultish, "you are with NaMo or against NaMo".

I dont find any of that credible, slightly amusing at best.
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And oh sorry to be party pooper, but the celebrations are highly premature -- this is not a big deal -- winning elections is not a done deal, the battle is ahead.
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I guess the Glenlievet wore of too soon? 8)
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ramana wrote:I guess the Glenlievet wore of too soon? 8)
Ramana garu, I would say aroun 30 hours effect is not too bad.
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SaiK wrote:what! sanku ayiar switching sides now after modi anointment?
Yeah, He switched side from bjp to BJP or did he??
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SaiK wrote: desh ka amrut is the end of day drink onlee for them.
Yes I quite like it.

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chaanakya wrote:
SaiK wrote:what! sanku ayiar switching sides now after modi anointment?
Yeah, He switched side from bjp to BJP or did he??
Appreciate it Chaankya San.
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http://www.saharasamay.com/nation-news/ ... oogle.html
Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi, Who is elevated to BJP PM Candidate for Lok Sabha elections, has broken record of most searched person on Google.


Modi, who has emerged as most popular political icon in India, entered the record book after his name received maximum number of search on Google in a day.

Around 1000077332 (Over one billion) people searched the keyword Narendra Modi on search engine giant Google.

Earlier, this record was named after US President Barack Obama. During the US presidential elections, Barack Obama received 9877532 number of search in a single day.

On Friday, BJP top brass named Modi as its Prime Ministerial Candidate, ignoring veteran LK Advani’s opposition.
whoa.
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Reports are that Hooda gubmint has cut power to the rally and surrounding areas since morning today. Gehlot tried similar helpful tactics during the jaipur rally, to prevent people seeing the speeches live on local channels. Chweet, no?

meanwhile, sekoolaid drinking has reached heightened lows in Bihar...
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Hari Seldon wrote:Reports are that Hooda gubmint has cut power to the rally and surrounding areas since morning today. Gehlot tried similar helpful tactics during the jaipur rally, to prevent people seeing the speeches live on local channels. Chweet, no?

meanwhile, sekoolaid drinking has reached heightened lows in Bihar...
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To think that this is the guy touted by the DDM as a secular rival/alternative to Modi, there are no words to voice the contempt I feel for DDM.
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"Attock Se Cuttack tak" 3:31

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Government’s latest ad campaigns: Is it right to blame lalas for corrupt practices?
Dear Tax-paying Reader,

In recent times, our worthy sultans in Delhi have started using your money to launch a massive publicity campaign on TV channels.

I am particularly intrigued by one advertisement where a savvy young woman berates a ration shopkeeper for withholding foodgrain from poor shoppers. The merchant claims that he has no stocks, while presumably secretly stashing away the food that has been provided by our generous government. The young woman addresses the shopkeeper with contempt, in the singular in Hindi, as "Aay Lala".

Now we all know that the term "lala" refers to persons of Bania/Vaishya caste. They go under different names in different parts of the country: Seth, Sheth, Sethi, Shreshti, Agarwal, Gupta, Gupte, Bhandari, Vaish, Chetty, Shetty, Chettiar, Vania and so on. But the national idiom, popularised by Bollywood, refers to all of them as lalas.

The young woman, who represents our honourable government, accuses the lala of enriching his family at the expense of the poor. Now I ask you, if the government of India used your money to run advertisements that made disparaging references to the ethnic origins of Dalits, Muslims, scheduled tribes or for that matter of Jats, Gujjars, Rajputs or Marathas, would they be able to get away with it? But members of the merchant caste are fair game. One wonders why the All India Vaishya Sabha does not protest. Perhaps there is no such organisation!

Venal Vaishya

Despite the Father of the Nation hailing from a Bania background, the ideologues of our great sovereign, secular, socialist republic have for almost seven decades imposed upon us a Brahminical philosophy of disdain for trade and the trading fraternity. Every NCERT textbook rails against corrupt "middlemen"; Indian movies depict shopkeepers as oily, sly, cunning and exploitative.

In this, they follow the worthy traditions of British colonial administrators who hated Banias. Of course, on their home turf, they were proud that they were described by their adversary as a "nation of shopkeepers", and that their nation of shopkeepers successfully defeated Frankish knights in armour and Teutonic barons. It was only the "native" merchants of India they hated; perhaps they felt threatened by communities which had been successful traders for millennia. In any event, why blame the British? Our present government seems to feel the same way!

There is another subtext to the government's insidious campaign. There is nothing wrong with the food ministry and the department of civil supplies. The public distribution system is simply brilliant, efficient and clean. The Food Corporation of India (FCI) is the most well-run organisation in the world. There is no corruption in its food procurement process.

Its godowns are clean, safe and free of pests. Its non-godowns are in even better shape. (Dear Reader: a "non-godown" is a new Indian gift to the English language. A non-godown is a piece of open ground, where grains are stored in order that they may rot, while fully covered by tarpaulin sheets).

The only reason Indian citizens do not get inexpensive, high-quality foodgrain is because of the venal Vaishya. The government works really well. It is the lala who subverts the government. If that were not obvious earlier, the government's latest TV ad should make it crystal clear to us. The government of India has clearly learnt a great deal from propagandists. The ruling dispensation is concerned for the poor, wants to help the poor, in fact is helping the poor. If only the lalas of India were chastised and kept in line, as the government's young spokeswoman does in the ad, all will be well.

With all their faults (and who, except our great sultanate in Delhi does not have faults?), the fact of the matter is that the various Vaishya castes and sub-castes of India have kept alive traditions of trade, entrepreneurship and wealth creation. In difficult terrains, in parts of the country where the writ of terrorists and extortionists, rather than that of the Indian state prevails, small shopkeepers keep their establishments open, stocking inventories of slow and fast-moving goods. They create genuine value.

R Vaidyanathan of the Indian Institute of Management, Bangalore, has written at length that if India wants to become prosperous what we need is a conscious "vaishya-isation" of our society, most certainly not a vindictive and vituperative campaign against trade and traders. But the government of India, our government, the one that we pay taxes to, has now officially informed us that these shopkeepers are responsible for sabotaging the government's largesse.

And once our government has spoken, truth has been established. That is the ex-cathedra message of the department of audio-visual publicity of the ministry of information and broadcasting. Goebbels called it the ministry of propaganda and George Orwell called it the ministry of truth, precisely because it was committed to disseminating the untruth.

Dear Tax-paying Reader, over the next few months, you can expect your taxes to be spent on campaigns against evil mining companies, who steal the lands of the tribals, against evil multinationals who seek to fight the tax collector in the courts of the land, against anyone who is a supporter of the creation of wealth, against anyone who dares to support the lala or to criticise this great government, our "anna-daata" — in Sanskrit, literally, the grain-giver.


As an aside, the ruling party is not looking for any votes from the lalas.
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http://www.niticentral.com/

Kanchan Gupta ‏@KanchanGupta 2m .@Rajatlaw No need to dial any number. We are live broadcasting #FaujiWithModi 12.30 http://niticentral.com and http://nwrlive.com
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Any channel showing Revari live?

--Edited: Almost all channels. Nevermind.--
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